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Frieza (Full Power, Fresh) vs SSJ Goku (Namek)
Topic Started: Mar 11 2012, 04:51 PM (3,066 Views)
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It's said sometimes that the Spirit Bomb did in fact take a toll on Frieza, and he was fighting people all day. Sans both of those, how do you think the fight would have played out?

Come to think of it, Goku got his ***** whooped by Frieza too, so I guess that could cut both ways...
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I Read Somewhere in Daizenshuu 4 that the Spirit Bomb Greatly weakened Frieza , resulting a major loss in power , when attempting to reach his Full Power of 200,000,000 he was unable to power up beyond 120,000,000.
I don't if this is true or not ?
Anyway I Think Goku Wins cuz his always the hero .<_<
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goku wasnt getting whooped, he was testing friezas abilities. frieza lost because he couldnt take goku out not because he couldnt get a chance to finish him off.

people make excuses all the time, the truth is the numbers dont lie.

friezas max power is 120 million

gokus is 150.

thats butt whoop, turn your back on, give energy too, and fight again type of energy goku has to spare to kick the crap out of frieza. Goku told him to train and get stronger, frieza didnt want to accept it, neither do some people.

after the transformation goku had this in the bag.

friezas problem is that he had failed to kill goku before then, playing around.

could frieza have really killed goku so easy? short answer? hell yes.

after he went ssj? hell no.
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Ninjajp247
Mar 11 2012, 05:31 PM
goku wasnt getting whooped, he was testing friezas abilities
I was referring to before the SSJ transformation, when he actually was getting stomped. I'd imagine that he would be at least a little weaker as a Super Saiyan after that beating as opposed to if he were to go SSJ when fresh. I'd also imagine that Frieza would be at least a little stronger @ full power if he didn't get hit in the face with a Spirit Bomb. That's the comparison I was making.

But yeah; probably the same outcome.
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Doesn't matter if he was fresh. Freeza at 100% was losing power, regardless of the Spirit Bomb toll, he would have run out of steam way before Son, his body couldn't take the strain from that power. It would only result in a closer fight, but Son would still win.
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Freizas true power-200,000,000

Stated much?

I think with that power he'd easily beat Goku.
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If we are going off of FAN MADE guides, it's stated in my Mappo Slappo Crappo Mustacho guide that Frieza is weaker than Zarbon coz Zarbon's cooler :D
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Mar 12 2012, 01:05 AM
If we are going off of FAN MADE guides, it's stated in my Mappo Slappo Crappo Mustacho guide that Frieza is weaker than Zarbon coz Zarbon's cooler :D
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I have Goku still winning, Freeza's ki was decreasing much faster than Goku's even in SSJ.
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Well, let's see:

Everytime Frieza achieved a new form, his ki/injuries/damages to him were replenished and healed, so any injuries Frieza attained before he transformed to his final form are negligible

Now let's see which attacks to him actually did something to Frieza and which didn't:


  • Vegeta vs. Frieza did nothing to him, Vegeta was hilariously inferior
  • Goku vs. Frieza before Goku used the Kaioken, as Frieza's PL at 50% power was 60,000,000 while Goku's base was 3,000,000
  • No character besides Goku did much damage to Frieza's final form


Now, let's see what attacks did do something to Frieza


  • Goku's 20x Kaioken Kamehameha put him at a PL of 60,000,000 or higher, which was equal to or greater than Frieza's PL at the time
  • Goku's Genki Dama severely weakened Frieza


Taking those two injuries into consideration, I'd say if he was uninjured, his PL at max power would be 150,000,000 at the most, enough to rival Goku, and it would all come down to skill and technique.
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Yet it was stated that he would've been at 200,000,000.
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Mar 13 2012, 12:22 AM
Yet it was stated that he would've been at 200,000,000.
But where? When talking about anime and manga, I see non-filler anime and manga as the most valid sources, unless it's the same guidebook that gave us SSJ Goku and Frieza's PLs.

His full power actually being 150,000,000 means 20% of his power was taken away from the Spirit Bomb and KKx20 KHH. If you want to raise this further, to say, 40%, his PL would be 200,000,000, but would it really be that dramatic?

And besides, 100% Frieza should be, well... 100% Frieza. If Frieza was so injured that his 100% power became weaker, he logically should not have been even able to power up to 100% power. Me giving Frieza's max 150,000,000 is just me assuming that it's possible he couldn't reach his actual maximum power at the fight, but I don't believe that.
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Where is this 200,000,000 thing stated?
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Mar 13 2012, 12:46 AM
Where is this 200,000,000 thing stated?
I am also keen to hear this.
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